In response to Hogg over at Ed’s place:
Hogg, the community of blogging has certainly changed in the 2 short years since the volunteer attitudes and community spirit built the first ConvergeSouth in 2005 and Hoggfest that same year. The online community tried to build itself through sharing, helpfulness and volunteering, which we all (and especially you) know so well. We supported each other but during the ensuing couple of years, something significant has changed. The anti-blogger clique has collaborated its keyboards and tears down without building up anything. The fruits of everyone’s labors from back then seems to have rotted.
What happened?
Some of us became better bloggers and some of us dropped out of blogging; some returned with new self-parameters. The thrill of the meet-up dwindled; real lives took over. Blogging suffered a fate of things new: it became indistinguishable from our daily activities and is no longer such a big deal. Those of us who were somehow lumped into a “clique” were both flabbergasted and amused by that charge and now there is a nouveau clique (Hogg’s words, just spelled differently) that seems to have a single mission: to validate their own views on race, on police, on governmental corruption whether or not there is any. One person even attempted repeatedly to threaten the employment of bloggers she disagreed with. Personal attacks have become the norm. I have only so much time (wife, mother, business owner) and choose my community engagement outside of business carefully. I chose ConvergeSouth to help the online community be both entertained and engaged.
Billy lays it at my feet that I am to blame for not supporting his yet-to-be defined anti-gang proposal; I wish him well, but can’t figure out why he’s not sharing it online even though he says he seems afraid for his family yet comments in at least 2 popular blogs that he’s got a sure-fire plan. But hey, no matter. I’m the bitch.
I wouldn’t blame Sandy Carmany if she decided to shut down her blog and go enjoy her grandchildren. As the only politician in the city who’s constantly and consistently shared information (whether or not you agree with her, she’s been there since day 1), she’s taken more crap from a small but passionate group than she — or anyone — deserves. Now Billy calls me a ‘bitch’ twice in one day and I’d like to smack Ed for not moderating his comments because it’s simply inappropriate.
If the rules of the online game are now that people are going to attack you personally, then CS2007 will be a lovely erstwhile tribute to what this community was and what a small anti-clique (some of whom don’t even live in this burg) can undo with gotcha keyboards, religious intolerance or ‘your religion isn’t as important as mine’, and name-calling, well, count me out.
Nope, this isn’t any of the below:
- I’m not going to stop blogging. Seriously, ya’ll don’t have any power over me in that regard
- This isn’t a call for people to email and support me. Many folks already have. Much appreciated, totally unnecessary. You don’t live this long and need others’ validation to be perfectly happy.
- This isn’t a “why can’t we all get along” diatribe. The nouveau clique will do everything in its cowardly power to prevent that so why push the river?
Of course, bitching is empowering and encourages me to make my own clique. Only bitches will be allowed (bastards may apply) and you have to wear purple. We’re going to have a secret handshake and we’ll talk about what other people wear.
Sue said, “If the rules of the online game are now that people are going to attack you personally, then CS2007 will be a lovely erstwhile tribute to what this community was and what a small anti-clique (some of whom don’t even live in this burg) can undo with gotcha keyboards, religious intolerance or ‘your religion isn’t as important as mine’, and name-calling, well, count me out.”
For starters you attacked me first with your accusation that I have some other agenda.
Then on the same day you accuse me of being prejudiced. Are those not personal attacks?
Do we really need to fight this fight? You’re wrong, Sue. I’ve been trying to rescue Greensboro’s blogging community from itself since January but it’s people like you seeking to capitalize on our community that are the problem. I went to our last Meetup and only one other person attended. I’ve been to every single meeting we had. You’ve attended less than half. I bent over backwards to apease you, even moving meetings twice on your behalf when YOU were the ONLY person who complained about where were were meeting.
The community came together because people met face to face instead of hiding behind computer screens and making cowardly accusations of hidden agendas and prejudice.
Get over yourself Sue. Even with all your money and all your college degrees you’re no better than anyone else and I dare say I’m not the only local blogger to say these very same things about you.
And you need to remember it was I who first put this community together on the heels of a blogging conference you didn’t attend. I did the day to day cheer-leading and promoting of every local blog I could find while you used our community to build your online business venturers.
Take all the credit you want and point the finger at whoever you like but the real Blogsboro pioneers all remember when you weren’t there and you didn’t build what you’re accusing the rest of us of tearing down.
The most you ever did was show up and you did a poor job of doing that.
“Sue, you are just wrong”.
I could not have said it better.
It’s a little galling to be accused of “religious intolerance” by someone whose premise (on the posts she references) that unless one is Jewish one cannot understand religious persecution. It’s a load of self-righteous hooey.
And, according to Sue, unless one lives in “the burg” one doesn’t rate as a local. Never mind that this blogger’s Father was born and raised in Greensboro (falling in love with trains when he played on the railroad tracks just blocks from his childhood home), this blogger’s Mother got her undergraduate and Master’s degrees at UNC-G, and this blogger was born at Moses Cone and did her undergraduate studies at her Mother’s alma mater (also taking classes at NCA&T). No local ties there.
And of course the one complaining about “personal attacks” is the one who passed out the diagnosis of “malignant narcissim”.
When you push those buttons don’t whine when people strike back.
Of course, what’s the point in having this kind . . . or any kind . . . of conversation with you?
Maybe you are both stressed right now and need to holster your guns for a bit until you recover.
I’m just FINE Jim. Not “stressed” at all.
Maybe Sue needs to THINK before she speaks. This kind of thing is getting old real fast.
Sue, I did not know that you had a lot of money. It makes me wonder why you feel the need to capitalize on Greensboro’s blogging community. Or maybe you got all that money by capitalizing on Greensboro’s blogging community? In which case, please tell me how I can get in on the action…
On a more serious note: Billy, I am confused at your reluctance to post his plan online, given your extensive postings on the subject under your own name, and the fact that your proposed alternative is a meeting with media and bloggers. How does posting it online endanger your family, but having a press conference about it not do the same thing?
In any case, it’s your plan, and you call the tune. Just wondering.
The short list of people who have done the most to build a real blogging community in GSO would include both of you, Sue and Billy.
Billy is a good guy with a big heart, and he’s clearly under enormous pressure at the moment. His friends, including me, are worried about his health and well-being. Perhaps the “agenda” comment, whatever the intent, struck him as a personal attack at a moment when he is in need of support. Text, as we have all learned, can be a blunt instrument.
I contemplated removing Billy’s epithet from my comments. I am reluctant to police my comments, though, and in the end, I felt it said more about Billy’s state of mind at the moment than it did about you, Sue.
Peace.
Jim,
You’re right, I’m very stressed.
Sue was one of the local bloggers I sent that e-mail to a couple of weeks ago begging for others to help spread the word of my plight being surrounded by street gang members– for two weeks she ignored me and when I announce I have a plan to rid Greensboro of street gangs she accuses me of having another agenda.
Sue doesn’t care about our local blogging community except as a means to further her own agenda and now I’m calling her on it.
Well, you know. Women who refuse to be bullied into shutting up are bitches.
F*** the haters, I say.
(edited by Sue for profanity and willing to take the charge of censorship)
These blanket judgments of people are depressing. Your situation sounds terrifying, Billy. Anyone in your shoes can be expected to get a little loose. But, you can’t judge Sue against the intensity of your own fear. It’s just not a fair standard. Judging is the only muscle anyone seems to want to flex online — which is just exhausting and lame. That’s what I mean by holstering guns. Being right isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. Sometimes, it’s better to be polite.
Ed, I wasn’t going to tell you about the hidden money till after we did our secret Cayman Islands trip. If I have so much money, someone’s gotta tell me WHY I’m working 24/7.
Perfect. Amber comes in the side door with a blanket accusation of misogyny and raises the rhetorical stakes from bitch to fuck.
Jim said, “Judging is the only muscle anyone seems to want to flex online — which is just exhausting and lame.”
Exactly my point! When I said I wanted to discuss the gang issues face to face Sue accused me of having another agenda. In other words: All Sue wants to do is judge me based on perceptions she cannot prove.
Isn’t judging people based on perceptions one cannot prove very near what we call prejudice?
By the way, I managed to meet face to face with several area bloggers, journalists and police officers today and they happen to like the plan Sue dismissed simply because I refused to blog the plan. I’m arranging meetings all week but Sue will not be invited.
Amber,
Sometimes the women are the bullies. Such is my experience with Sue.
Sue,
Are you the victim or do you feel that Billy has a point?
thanks
meblogin, let’s start here:
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“…but it’s people like you seeking to capitalize on our community that are the problem…”
Yup. I make a fortune off ConvergeSouth. I figure I’m up to -$125/hour by now.
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“…and I dare say I’m not the only local blogger to say these very same things about you…”
Do you dare or do you merely allude to those mysterious others who don’t or won’t say it to me?
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In answer to your original question, meblogin, have you stopped beating your wife?
I don’t accept your question: either I’m a victim or Billy has a point? You want to try to rephrase that so it’s answerable?
I stepped off the Cartesian gameboard a long while ago. Perhaps if others did, we wouldn’t have such false dichotomies plaguing this online community.
And no, Billy, I’ll never apologize for my education. Perhaps you should consider what’s really bothering you and why you’re choosing to set up a straw woman to vent your frustration. But first, as Jim wrote, maybe you should just calm down.
I have never beat my wife nor do I ever intend to and I will certainly attempt to stop the person that tries. (simple enough to answer)
I’m not sure how to rephrase my question so I guess it is not answerable by you. Then again you could rephrase so that you are comfortable adding to the thread. Does that work for you?
What false dichotomies do you see?
I have been here for some time and it looks about the same now as then. Folks arguing for no reason…being rude for no reason…and claiming that everyone else is guilty other than themselves appears to be the rule then and now. It makes me sick and causes me to consider blogging to be a waste of time.
It does not make sense to me and perhaps there should be a speaker at the Converge conference on this very topic. I know that I grow tired of the them vs. us or the originators vs the newbies..etc. I see you as one of the originators and myself as one of the newbies.
I believe that bloggers should write and be proud to share their work with our middle school students.
With regard to Billy calming down…you created a post about this…are you calm? If so, help me to understand.
Again Sue, when I said I wanted to discuss Greensboro’s street gang issues face to face you attacked me and accused me of having another agenda. It’s been over 24 hours and you’ve yet to address that point, the main point in this entire argument. You continue to dance around the issues and pretend to respond but the fact remains that you attacked me not once, not twice, but including this thread 3 times and nowhere in any of these threads have you backed up your accusation that I have some other agenda other than making Greensboro a safe place to live.
Perhaps you would like to offer some proof as to your accusations?
meb: “I have never beat my wife nor do I ever intend to and I will certainly attempt to stop the person that tries. (simple enough to answer)”
It doesn’t work that way. When you’re a hostile witness, you can be relegated to only yes/no answers (that was my point; that some questions don’t have yes/no answers, not if you want the truth). It was a good try, though. Could be why we’re both not lawyers eh?
The issue Billy is so fraught over is that I asked if he had a plan, why not share it on the Web (I believe, but am not sure, that he was one of the folks who believed the RMA report should be web’ed before it was legal to do so, but again, it’s that memory thing)? If he kept talking about it on other well-read blogs, it was hard for me to buy the argument that he feared for his life (if he posted it). The entire episode seemed to be: Come to my meeting, meet with me, I have the solution, rich businessmen are meeting with me, taking me to lunch, ad nauseum. If there’s a plan and this is such an online community (see RMA, above and all the calls for opening every document the City has, even if other laws prevent them from doing so, and I don’t lay that at Billy’s feet, but it’s a general methodology of late), when why not just put it online, anonymously if need be for self-protection.
If this plan isn’t going online, then there could be another reason for that – perhaps Billy, who is well-known for using tips & tricks to gain all the possible blog hits he can for advertising revenue – had another reason for not posting that document. (That’s called another “agenda” and I asked about it.)
Billy blew up self-righteously and instead of posting the plan, decided to attack me as a diversion to why the plan wasn’t posted. This is a pretty old trick to change the topic when your answers to the original question might not be ready, or good enough, or easily articulated, or gasp! if there is no cogent written plan. Suddenly, this wasn’t about (poor) Billy and his plan; rather, it was about “Sue as bitch,” and frankly, I’m not playing that game.
I’ve already told Ed (not for the first time, either) that he needs to do a better moderating of comments job on his blog. Personal attacks are simply that and by not deleting them, it’s tantamount to encouraging them. Which is exactly what happened. (Ed and I can disagree, talk it over, make our points, and still be friends.)
Finally, Billy decided to launch into the diatribes that were predictable:
1. I have too much education and laud that over other people. (Education isn’t given; it’s earned. I gave up 3 years of my life to finish a PhD and if you think I’m going to apologize for that, think again.) I like being called “Doc” by some folks (like my children, if they want dinner.)
2. I have too much money (that’s way too funny) and that, for some reason, is a problem for him. Could be the real problem: his perception that others just have more than he has and somehow get more from the City for that. In reality, all I get is 2x/year inserts in the N&R of free Advil samples, which I need.
3. I make money off the blogging community. Currently, I have about $2,000 on my personal credit card waiting for reimbursement (from money I raised) for ConvergeSouth travel and hotel expenses. There is likely to be about $3,500 more in the near future. If I’m lucky, I’ll break even this year (like most prior years) but it doesn’t include the value of the hours I’ve spent doing this or incidental expenses that I never ask to be reimbursed PLUS my company has make a cash contribution every year to CS. Has yours? Has anyone’s? Got $50? BTW, can we use your credit card for CS expenses instead of mine while we wait 30, 60 days or more for reimbursement?
4. Billy emailed that he wanted bloggers’ help in combating gangs and used his neighborhood as an example. Personally, I believe that with N&R coverage, the gang issue is higher on the “to do” list than ever before for the City and the Police. IMO, that’s where many of the solutions lie, along with citizen input, and given my schedule (business owner, remember?) and I give up much of October for ConvergeSouth, I have to pick and choose where I put my time and right now, any available time goes directly into the business. I have a mortgage to pay. Bills. Client with needs. Apparently my needs don’t matter to Billy if he doesn’t get his needs met. Sounds fairly childish to me.
5. Last, but certainly not least, right after I post about the Jewish high holy days, after Ed gives the community an opportunity to talk about feeling unsafe in a house of worship (no one really wanted to talk about THAT; rather, they wanted to tell me why I was wrong), it didn’t sit very comfortably that I got labeled as ‘bitch.’ Confluence? Perhaps. More likely, Billy showed his colors by telling us that “poor Jews” didn’t have any protection (that’s from the POS line of thought) and he knew poor Jews that… (whatever: didn’t get what wealthier Jews got?). Ed corrected him, twice, but Ed’s not today’s ‘bitch,’ so it just went away.
If Billy’s nose is out of joint over the blogging community (that he singlehandedly built :) and its failure to react immediately to his mysterious plan, then it’s not my fault, I take no responsibility for it, I don’t know why he didn’t propose a ConvergeSouth session over it (I had to talk him into doing one about another topic; this precedes the latest blowup).
Your telling me that “I” should do this at CS got the biggest laugh. Do you know how many weeks out of the year this blogging community tells me what *I* should do at CS? This is a community driven conference. If you want something included, propose it, work on it, get a budget for it and I’ll raise the money for it. That’s the way it’s always been, but it’s SO much easier to tell “the bitch” what she should do and then walk away, only to moan and groan that CS didn’t include your favored thing.
Nope, I’m not a victim; in fact, I feel pretty darned powerful in non-financial sense. I understand servant leadership – the one that comes without personal reward or recognition – and choose to do that for my community based on what is important to me, my community and my time.
As for the ‘bitch’ thing…
Just remember: there’s another side of this 1st amendment thing. Consequences. If he wants to exercise his right to call me a ‘bitch,’ then there are consequences. That’s another part of that pesky amendment we seem to forget too easily.
Way too much typing for early morning and I doubt it’ll change anything, but I’m in a great mood (new grandma of a rescued pooch in Kid #2’s life), my son looks fabulous with exercise and diet so I bought him new clothes, and my own two doggies’ matching collars and harnesses arrived at a new downtown pooch store. I’m having a good day and everyone after this hopefully will be even better.
(No guarantees I won’t re-read and edit this; I wrote fast.)
Ya’ll mire yourselves in angst, but I’m not playing.
With regard to “It doesn’t work that way. When you’re a hostile witness, you can be relegated to only yes/no answers (that was my point; that some questions don’t have yes/no answers, not if you want the truth). It was a good try, though. Could be why we’re both not lawyers eh?”
I had no idea that you and I were in a court of law or trying to pretend to be and I have no clue why you chose to point this out. No problem…I just don’t normally think the way you are implying.
If you and others involved with CS don’t feel that the topic of blog etiquette, old crowd vs. new crowd is relevant or needed…then no big deal. I for one would like to see the old crowd drop the ….it sure was better back then…blah blah. As I said, I don’t really see much difference between a couple of years ago and now. There are those that attack without provocation and then claim foul when counterattacked…sigh…moving on….life to short and all….
Regardless of whatever Billy tried to say to you or your response I don’t believe he should have called you a bitch. I guess it shows how frustrated he is and the high level of respect that he has for you. Instead of applying your logic..why not request that he email directly and confidentially so as to minimize his fear for his self and family. He asked for your help if I recall from his earlier writing.
Have a great day and peace,
me
“I had no idea that you and I were in a court of law or trying to pretend to be and I have no clue why you chose to point this out. No problem…I just don’t normally think the way you are implying.”
good one, meb. My explanation of hostile witnesses and typically-asked yet unanswerable questions seems lost (deliberately or not, I won’t speculate).
Your suggestions are fine – I thought I explained it above. There is not one hour of my life prior to ConvergeSouth that I can use to get involved in other issues. I thought I made that clear; apparently, I did not. I have already wished Billy well with his plan, but if he wants universal support and has the Web to share the “Plan,” then that’s the easiest and fastest way to generate support. I have already suggested he do it (so did Ed, but Ed’s not the bitch v.2.0) and when I have some concrete background and suggestions, I can determine if I want to be involved in this particular effort.
I choose not to embrace those who call me names publicly, who don’t apologize for it, and then continue down that same ineffective path. Why would I want to associate myself with people who are ugly to me during a time that *I* am stressed, busy, and working on a project that has FOUR volunteers working hard on it (in addition to me)? They’re Sean Coon, Janet, Andy Coon and Ed Cone. That’s the whole list pulling off every part of ConvergeSouth.
Honey. Flies. The old adages are usually right.
“…I don’t believe he should have called you a bitch. I guess it shows how frustrated he is and the high level of respect that he has for you.”
Huh?
Sue said,
“Billy blew up self-righteously and instead of posting the plan, decided to attack me as a diversion to why the plan wasn’t posted. This is a pretty old trick to change the topic when your answers to the original question might not be ready, or good enough, or easily articulated, or gasp! if there is no cogent written plan.”
There she goes again using her prejudiced perceptions of me to make false accusations against me. Her time line is off as well. I commented I would not post the plan online from the very beginning so there was no “instead of” posting the plan.
And speaking of changing the topic, Sue has yet to address my original question from my first comment in this thread: “For starters you attacked me first with your accusation that I have some other agenda.
Then on the same day you accuse me of being prejudiced. Are those not personal attacks?”
So Sue, as you are also a hostile witness, did you or did you not accuse me of having another agenda? Yes or No?
Did you or did you not accuse me of being prejudiced? Yes or no?
Sue continues to distort the facts and twist words for reasons unknown to me. That, my friends is an accusation and I’m man enough to back it up unlike the cowardly Sue who can’t admit her mistakes and continues to try and confuse the issues.
Answer the questions Sue: Did you accuse me of having another agenda and did you accuse me of being prejudiced? Yes or no?
And remember: everyone involved in this mess can follow the threads and find the links. I admit that the word “Bitch” might be a bit strong for the thin skinned among us but there’s no denying I said it just like there’s no denying that Sue accused me of another agenda and of being prejudiced.
Sue has a history of deleting my comments from her blog whenever I prove her wrong. That’s why I posted my first comment in this thread to my own blog.
And finally, Sue it’s really tragic you’re so hard up for money, why just the other day I pointed a big commercial customer towards you because I can’t build the type of website he wants but he told me, “There’s no way that bitch is going to get my money.”
Anyway, gotta go post a poem to my blog before I set out to lunch with more cops, area business persons, candidates, media and others who want to hear my plan– the very same plan that emptied 6 street gang houses in one night without ever firing a shot.
This is the least fun club ever.
If you’d change your tone to conciliatory, you’d gain a smidgen of respect from me. Questions are not answered due to your demands; rather, they are inaccuracies that need clearing up.
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So Sue, as you are also a hostile witness, did you or did you not accuse me of having another agenda? Yes or No?
No. I asked you if you had another agenda. Words, as you know, are very powerful and carefully chosen.
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Did you or did you not accuse me of being prejudiced? Yes or no?
No. I asked someone else. You ass.u.me’d it was you.
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Sue has a history of deleting my comments from her blog whenever I prove her wrong. That’s why I posted my first comment in this thread to my own blog.
Untrue. Never happened. This one’s inside your head, where a lot of other stuff seems to be simmering. Got any proof or is this just another of your accusations made to say long and hard enough and then create truthiness? Fact is, aside from spam, I believe I’ve deleted two comments ever from my blog and both were sent by a woman.
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I pointed a big commercial customer towards you because I can’t build the type of website he wants but he told me
Uh huh. Got proof? Or is this part of the creation of more truthiness.
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Really, Billy, drink more Diet Coke than KoolAid and I think you’ll have a brighter day.
Thus, this is why I don’t participate in this craziness anymore. Totally agree with Jim. “…least fun club ever.”
My perspective of it all.
The whole thing with Sue? She’s awesome and she backs it up. She’s got more gungho than most men, and I respect that cuz she’s got that from being a Jewish mom probably.
She backs her stuff up. That’s probably from 1) being married to an attorney and 2) having the education. Not something that I really care for (either 1 or 2) but there’s not much that she can do that wouldn’t have my respect as far as her answers to things go.
This whole thing? From what I read, Sue wasn’t coming out of left field, but it seems Billy was (no offense Billy, just telling it like it is). The whole thing just needs a giant chill pill though.
And if people think that I’m just a Sue supporter, think again. While I’ve both worked with her on business, and volunteer stuff like CS, and she’s like an adopted mama to me, I couldn’t care less for some of her more liberal perspectives. But I respect those lines of thought, just as she does mine. That’s what being adults is all about. The whole “bitch” comment was really uncalled for, regardless of what context prefaced it. The only place I could even see using that word is if you were writing a satire piece. And that comment was definitely not satire.
Oh… and just fyi. I meant that I don’t want to marry an attorney or get more education. haha.
Okay Sue,
Let me put it to you like this: Call, e-mail or visit any of the following people and ask them if they doubt my reasons for what I’m doing. Ask them if they think I have any agenda other than to rid our city of street gangs. Ask Sandy Carmany, David Hoggard, Sidney C Gray, Meblogin, Rev. Joe Venable, Cindy Hayworth, John Hammer, Ed Cone, Berkley Blanks. Joel Landau, Roch Smith Jr., Greg Woodard, Janet M. Wallace, Joe Guarino, Allen Johnson, Doug Clark, Margaret Banks, Diane Davis, Andy Coon and a host of others if they believe I’m sincere.
Ask any member of the current city council if they think I’m sincere. I’d been rattling their cages every day for well over a week before this argument began. They may tell you they think me crazy but they’ll not deny my sincerity or accuse me of having another agenda. Drop by and see Kieth Holiday, he’s just around the corner from you. Ask him about the daily e-mails concerning the Greensboro Gang Report.
No, not all of them have seen the plan but they’ve all spoke with or heard from me concerning this issue. And some of them have seen the plan. Pick up your phone, send an e-mail, get in your car whatever… And then accuse me of having ANOTHER AGENDA.
Or you can continue to think yourself above being wrong but all those people and more now know how blatantly wrong and accusatory you can be and have been towards me.
Go ahead, ask them if you dare.
And that goes for any of the rest of you who have chosen to take Sue’s side in this argument. See who is backing up his story this time. It ain’t Sue.
Billy, take a break from all of this and re-read this short passage:
I haven’t accused. You are taking a terse question and have created a whole thing out of it that isn’t there. Even G-d rested after a while; maybe you should, too. And I won’t even bother to ask you to answer the questions I asked earlier.
I’m busy now forming a club that is much more fun.
And I’m joining the club.. I’m joining the club! HARHARHARHAR… only cuz I know the club benefits.
Sue,
Thanks for your thoughts.
Your question–(deliberately or not, I won’t speculate). The answer is …not.
I try to write as simply as I can…and is about the only way I know anyway.
Not that it matters but have you noticed that you challenged rather than take me at face value a couple of times. Others could draw hopefully the wrong conclusion that in your challenges that you are speculating as to the truthfulness of the other blogger or in effect calling someone a liar. In this case..me.
With regard to CS…maybe someone with a few extra minutes will pick up on the idea of how to build a stronger, happier blogging community. I hope so as the bickering gets old. I much prefer to agree to disagree than slide this way and that.
Thanks for the work that you do to help bloggers and CS.
me
Sue, you’re not a dragon. Had I have taken off my blindfold I would have known that. You don’t breath fire, you’re not green and scaly. What was I thinking? I can’t hunt dragons blindfolded I might chop off the wrong tail.
Hark! I hear a real dragon.
It’s over there —————————>
I’m off to slay a real dragon.
Okay, that’s as close to an apology as you’re going to get. ;-)
PS. I’ll work on that blurb tonight.